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Over the board - Talking online chesswhat is 1.Nf3 d5 2.c4 called?
i thought this was the reti but just saw that theyre calling reti just 1.Nf3... so whats the above one? or do they just see where it transposes to?I have many lost games as black in closed sicilian, is any strong player that can see some games of mine(about 5) and tell me some main plans/ideas that I can no in order to improve this opening as black ?I have just finished Text chess and it will run on any windows machine, its just text graphics.
I need players to advise weights and measures to use in my position evaluations, and find any other facts about the program Ive missed. AND! can you break it? thats got a be fun!+
the link is: http://uk.geocities.com/avalomhilly/TextChes.zip
My homepage is: http://uk.geocities.com/avalomhilly/FreeBoardWargames.html
my yahoo group is:
http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/group/AvalomandMud/
can you help?
MarkKepler recommended to me the book How to Choose a Chess Move by Andrew Soltis and I brought it and it is incredibly helpful (thanks Kepler). In the Chapter "Reality Check" he brings up a fascinating point and some very interesting data from two detailed studies of GM games published in Chess Informant.
First, the point:
The greatest limitation we regularly face in finding the best move is not lack of time. Nor is it our insufficient powers of visualization. [b] It is the absence of a best move[/b].
Next the data. He made two studies of 50 random games in separate Chess Informant dividing the moves into one of four categories:
Book - established opening or endgame theory
Forced - routine recaptures, mandatory responses to checks or other one move threats.
Best - Non-forced move situations in which there was one move which post-mortem analysis proved to be best.
Discreationary - Remaining positions; none of the choices are clearly "best".
The percentages of each type of move were (combining the two studies %):
Book - 29%
Forced - 6%
Best - 30%
Discretionary - 35%
Musing on these figures they certainly show that forced moves are relatively rare. What light does this info throw on previous threads regarding the differences between the play of an engine and that of strong human players?
BTW, the book has a Fischer quote I am quite fond of and consider to be some of the best advice I've ever read: Don't worry about finding the best move. Just try to find a good move.Yep, that has sense after all :O
First time in my RHP history I am playing 1700-2200 players and I have tendency to think in pretty primmitive way, looking for cheap attacks etc. These guys need some other approach :O
No kidding, I developed absymal mental and playing attitude because I played too much lower rated opponents :OSee thread - IS EASY CHESS HARD.Hi guys, when i started playing chess I found an easy chess game on the internet
http://www.playedonline.com/game/151.html
however I have found that it's not easy at all!
what do you think and can you beat it?[uid]402166[/uid]
Only 22 games and already rated over 2200.
A future no 1 and pretty soon by the looks of it.That's right!Let me say it again: Vienna Gambit;Hamppe-Allgaier-Thorold Gambit.That name alone deserves a post.Ha!
Seriously,I was playing over this game.At the end it felt like I got run over by a truck.I don't think I understand anything of what happened.Some brave soul wants to try add some notes?Or maybe someone has this game with annotations?Would be nice.
[pgn][Event "Hollywood"]
[Site "Hollywood"]
[Date "1944.??.??"]
[EventDate "?"]
[Round "?"]
[Result "1-0"]
[White "Weaver Warren Adams"]
[Black "Herman Steiner"]
[ECO "C25"]
[WhiteElo "?"]
[BlackElo "?"]
[PlyCount "53"]
1.e4 e5 2.Nc3 Nc6 3.f4 exf4 4.Nf3 g5 5.h4 g4 6.Ng5 h6 7.Nxf7
Kxf7 8.d4 d5 9.exd5 Nce7 10.Bxf4 Ng6 11.Be5 Bd6 12.Bc4 Nxe5
13.dxe5 Bxe5 14.Qd3 Nf6 15.O-O-O b5 16.Nxb5 Kg7 17.h5 Bf4+
18.Kb1 Rf8 19.g3 Bg5 20.d6 c6 21.Nc7 Rb8 22.Rde1 Ng8 23.Qg6+
Kh8 24.Bd3 Nf6 25.Re7 Qxe7 26.dxe7 Rg8 27.e8=Q 1-0[/pgn]
Sidenote: I have a book on the vienna featuring this game(not annotated) and it gives it as played in Corpus Christi,1947.This pgn I got from chessgames.com gives it as played in Hollywood,1944.Yet another task for E.Winter! :)Letsplaychess.com Instructive game from the British Championship 2007 - Attacking with dark square control!
Jacob Aagaard-Mark Hebden: 1-0
http://video.aol.com/video-detail/letsplaychesscom--attacking-with-dark-square-control/2889027649
Really amazing play from Aagaard !Unjustified generic hostility.I'm looking for a free engine that I can use to analyse my games. Which would you recommend?Posting a game you like is easy. I can't remember the last time I dropped so many clangers as in this one. Fortunately my opponent was intent on matching me. Anyone got any greater terrors lurking in their archives?
[pgn][Event "RHP Blitz rated"]
[Site "www.redhotpawn.com"]
[Date "2008.7.18"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Slightly better than me"]
[Black "hunterknox"]
[Result "0-1"]
1. e2-e4 g7-g5 2. Bf1-c4 h7-h6 3. Qd1-h5 e7-e6 4. Ng1-f3 Bf8-g7 5. d2-d4 Ng8-f6 6. Qh5-h3 Nf6xe4 7. O-O d7-d5 8. Bc4-b3 Nb8-d7 9. Nb1-d2 c7-c5 10. Nd2xe4 d5xe4 11. Nf3-d2 Nd7-f6 12. Nd2-c4 c5xd4 13. Rf1-e1 a7-a5 14. a2-a4 e6-e5 15. Nc4xe5 Bc8xh3 16. Bb3xf7 Ke8-f8 17. b2-b3 Bh3-f5 18. Bc1-a3 Qd8-e7 19. Ba3xe7 Kf8xe7 20. Bf7-c4 Ra8-f8 21. h2-h3 g5-g4 22. h3xg4 Nf6xg4 23. Ne5xg4 Bf5xg4 24. Re1xe4 Ke7-f6 25. Re4xg4 h6-h5 26. Rg4xd4 Kf6-e7 27. Ra1-e1 Ke7-f6 28. Re1-e6 Kf6-g5 29. Rd4-d5 Rf8-f5 30. f2-f4 Kg5xf4 31. Rd5xf5 Kf4xf5 32. Re6-b6 Bg7-d4 33. Kg1-h2 Bd4xb6 34. Bc4-d3 Kf5-f4 35. g2-g3 Kf4-f3 36. c2-c4 Bb6-f2 37. c4-c5 h5-h4 38. g3xh4 Rh8xh4 0-1[/pgn]
By the way, 1... g5 was a mouse slip, which was somehow psychologically different from when I play it with intent.I sent him a message over at gameknot and he says he still misses playing at RHP, and I figured since we're not enforcing section 3b anymore mind as well let him back.
EDIT: Also since Russ let back Exy I dont see the harm in letting back another one.
If you guys agree with letting back Ironman please give this your recommendation.Adam Warlock in another post regrets missing a [i]flashy finish.[/i]
What about this OTB flashy finish. I gambled he would take
the Rook for a 'Cool Win' this could have ended in tears.
(13.g3 holds is what I have written in my notebook)
Go for it if you feel lucky - I was.
But be prepared to accept the consequences if it fails.
(I was ready to jump out the window)
[pgn]
[Event "Edinburgh Summer Cup"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "1978.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "C. Fortescue"]
[Black "G. Chandler"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "B02"]
[PlyCount "32"]
[EventDate "1978.??.??"]
1.e4 Nf6 2.Nc3 d5 3.exd5 Nxd5 4.Nf3 Bg4 5.Be2 e6 6.O-O Nf4 7.Bb5+ Nc6 8.h3 h5 9.hxg4 hxg4 10.Ne5 Bd6 11.Nxc6 bxc6 12.Bxc6+ Kf8 13.Bxa8 Ne2+ 14.Qxe2 Rh1+ 15.Kxh1 Qh4+ 16.Kg1 Qh2[/pgn]Post any nice sacs here.
[fen]3r2rk/2b2p1p/p1p2P2/1ppq4/1P6/P2P1N1P/1QP2PP1/3R1R1K b - - 4 27[/fen]
1. Rxg2! Rg1 2. Rh1#
Too lazy to write all the variations, so I just wrote what happened in the game...I've just finished reading [i]Understanding Chess Tactics[/i] by [i]Martin Weteschnik[/i] and I'm now looking for two more books: one with tactical puzzles and another that will teach me new technique etc. What books would you recommmend?[pgn]1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. a3 Nf6 4. Nc3 Bc5 5. h3 d6 6. Bb5 Be6 7. Ng5 Qe7 8. Nxe6
Qxe6 9. Qe2 O-O 10. Na4 Bb6 11. Nxb6 axb6 12. d3 Nd4 13. Bc4 Qd7 14. Qd2 b5 15.
Ba2 c5 16. c3 Nc6 17. O-O b6 18. f4 d5 19. fxe5 Nxe5 20. exd5 Nxd5 21. Qe2 Rae8
22. Qc2 c4 23. d4 Nd3 24. Qd2 Re3 25. b3 Nxc1 26. Raxc1 Rd3 27. Qb2 Qc6 28. b4
Re8 29. Bb1 Rde3 30. Rce1 Rxe1 31. Rxe1 Rxe1+ 32. Kf2 Re7 33. Qc2 Qf6+ 34. Kg1
g6 35. Qc1 Qf4 36. Qf1 Qxf1+ 37. Kxf1 Nxc3 38. Bc2 Na2 39. d5 Nc3 40. d6 Rd7
41. Kf2 Rxd6 42. Ke3 f5 43. g3 Kg7 44. g4 fxg4 45. hxg4 h6 46. Be4 Nxe4 47.
Kxe4 c3 48. Ke5 Rd1 49. Ke6 c2 50. Ke5 c1=B 51. Ke4[pgn]
I played this game on other site. I was so disgusted with my opponent that I resigned at last. It was one of the three games I had to finish on that site before making a break there and playing exclusively on RHP.
I know what some of you will say ; you played within preagreed time controls and your opponent played with preagreed time controls. That is true, but let's be honest... After the game was definetly lost for him, he started to play so snaily, he would wait last 5 minutes before timeout and then move. He didn't break any rule, I know... But you have to keep some dignity...
So I eventually asked him if he want that points so badly. Of course he didn't reply, same as he didn't reply to my "Hello, I wish you a good game".
So after some weeks I simply resigned the game in disgust. Sure, it is his right to play within time controls but my right is to avoid players as unfair as him, even if that means to resign.
Good thing is that I just remembered that there are trophies on that site, everyone can see your trophies and the more you have it, the more popular and genuine player you are; you can send to your opponent animated trophies like "good sportmanship", "King of the Bishops" etc... So I've sent to him "good " with a picture of handshake..
Yeah childish, but frustration has to be wiped out somehow.
I could have the wrong attitude, so you are free to make your point.1353 !! Another 12 points and I will reach the median ! ! ! ! And finally I will be average mediocre FICS blitzer !!! huhu :D
wait... mediocre player.... After three years of playing... That isn't that cool is it.... no.... :|Be honest people, own up to your gameknot account names if you have them and your opinions on the site. I've just joined it but im not sure whether its worth my time to use it!A friend of mine will be in London for a few weeks later this year and would like purchase a new board / set for his "for fun" collection (spends up to about $100 per purchase). He buys a new board or new set whenever he travels internationally. Any recommended stores / places / areas he should check out?
Thanks!I would suggest for everyone to ignore his baseless and illogical statements and let him live in his own world. Lets not feed the troll anymore. Starting from know.please also post some examples of theoretical games. This is some fall-out from another thread.DF.
I placed £5 with you, via paypal for the 3pm GMT evens bet. Did I win? I've been away for a couple of hours.Its bad enough being addicted to chess but why are most of you obsessed with cheating (or trying to chatch cheats)? If you infested this time in reading chess books, your chess improve no? Remember the saying [b]Not the cry, but the flight of the wild duck, leads the flock to fly and follow.[/b] Seem to me that some of you are engaged in a wild goose chase.Not as bad as I normally find myself in - I am normally far too hasty in games where I have ages to consider my move and far too considered when haste is required!http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Royal_GameI stumbled upon this while surfing the web: http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/index.html
Check out the "Handbook of Chess" directly below the picture of Frank Marshall on the main page.
There is this quote, "When a player fails to cry “check” his adversary need not unless he likes move his king out of check, nor even cover him."
When I read that I remember when I was a boy and my father was teaching me to play chess. He told me that if you didn't say "check" when you placed your opponent in check, then the rules of check didn't apply.
I completely forgot about this until I saw this article. Has anyone else ever heard of this before?dang, I didn't know there were multiple general forumsThe Chess Book Club (which is a clan set up to share study notes) is studying "The Art of Attack" by Vladamir Vukovic (the algebraic version updated by John Nunn).
This clan plays no challenges but the members share notes in the forum.
The Art of Attack is not an easy book and players between 1500 and 1700 (myself included) admit to finding it requires a fair bit of work and commitment to get through it...but that's why we have the forum to help us all with motivation. One day when we complete this book we plan to take up another but for now we're concentrating on working through this one.
There has been a bit of stopping and starting along the way and now is a good time for new members to join.I suggested that applying the system no1marauder was told to use to gather evidence against suspecte3d cheats to a correspondence chess master who could not have used an engine might provide evidence for or against such players playing like engines. Someone suggested I should do it and post the results so here they are. I have not put this in the original thread to avoid it getting lost or possibly even deleted.
First, the how. I suspect most of you know how no1marauder has been gathering evidence by now but i shall describe the method here just to make sure you all know exactly what I did. I played each game through from the start, allowing an engine (HIARCS 12.1 in this case) to analyse each move for 30 seconds. I set it up to display the top 12 engine choices (no1 uses less but I wanted to see more of what the engine was doing) and then recorded all moves that matched the 1st, 2nd and 3rd choices. Finally, I calculated an engine match up percentage.
Second, the who. I decided to look at some of the games of Hans Berliner for the following reasons:
1. Berliner was CC World Champion in 1965 long before any chess engine would have been any use so he should come up clean as a whistle.
2. Berliner later went on to program chess engines (notably Hitech) and therefore should know something about chess engines and how they calculate.
3. Berliner wrote a book entitled "The System" that outlines his method for finding a move. He describes his system as a position evaluation function that ideally will give a numerical value for any position. He also comments that he has tried to program his Hitech system to use his evaluation function. On the basis of this I reckon that Berliner is the best candidate for possible engine-like play.
4. Berliner returned to play a 50 year Jubilee Waorld Champions Tournament in 2003 when engine use was already regarded as an issue.
5th CC World Championship Final
I had access to 15 games played by Berliner. He drew 4 and won 11.
311 moves total.
1st choice matches: 150
2nd choice matches: 55
3rd choice matches: 49
Total matches 254
Match up percentage = 82%
82% is fairly high but is just a number it does not really reveal much. I found that watching the games unfold and how the engine assessed the positions was very instructive.
Berliner always played 1. d4 as white and remarks on this in his book. As black he played Nf6 or g6 and aimed for King's Indian Defence type positions, not for the kingside attack possibilities but for solidity and safeness of position. Once out of the opening the engine generally assesses the position as about equal, giving a value within 0.3 of 0. At this point there will be many candidate moves that have approximately the same value to choose from. Berliner seems to choose from this 5, 6 or possibly more moves one that is as safe as possible. The chosen moves sometimes match, sometimes do not. In fact, in this stage of the game the match up percentage is about 50%. It seems that Berliner was in the habit of waiting for his opponent to make an error and then capitalising on it. This point is often easily seen in the engine analysis - the score suddenly changes from ~0 to ~1 (or ~-1 if playing black). At this point Berliner's play changes, his match up percentage increases dramatically and he often chooses the engine 1st choice. Berliner never blundered in any of these games although he did make mistakes, but these were not game losing mistakes unlike those of his opponents. Engine like? I don't think so but i have no doubt others will disagree.
Onwards then, to the age of engines.
50 Year Jubilee World Champions' Tournament.
This was a tournament played between past CC World Champions. It is important to remember that Berliner was 74 at the time of this tournament.
8 games played by Berliner. Won 1, drew 5, lost 2.
288 moves total.
1st choice matches: 220
2nd choice matches: 18
3rd choice matches: 6
Total matches: 244
Match up percentage: 85%
Again, this is quite high and is higher than in 1965, an again I found watching the games and the analysis instructive.
The first thing I noticed is that Berliner's opponents do not make mistakes for him to capitalise on anymore. The games tend to stay in that state of almost equality for many moves without really varying. I can think of two reasons for the lack of mistakes. First, this may be a consequence of having world champoions play each other. Maybe what separates a CC World Champion from the also-rans is simply the lack of mistakes. Second, maybe we are seeing evidence of engine use.
The second thing I noticed was that Berliner match up percentage in the sort of quiet position that dominates these games has shot up dramatically from 1965. He is now matching HIARCS' choices far more often whereas in 1965 in these quiet, equal positions he was only matching about 50% of the time. It is also notable that his highest match ups (both 92% ) happened in the two games he lost. I doubt this indicates total reliance on an engine since he is still making minor errors, and some that are major enough to lose. However, I strongly suspect he was making use of his own Hitech system.
So, make of that what you will.Is this new or has this been around for years?
http://www.redhotpawn.com/mastergames/index.phpcan anyone help with how to use deep mode,instructions seem a bit vague and it seems to not workHello,
I have fritz 8 and the database has games up to 2002. Is there some way I can download or update the database with games from 2003-2008? Is there a site or something where you can download a mass of pgn's?This is something different: http://www.chess-database.com/
Click on 'Database Query' and insert a path to a pgn file on your computer,then hit 'submit',from next page dl the game back to your computer.I tried it with my last finished game.This is what I got back.
[Event "Open invite"]
[Site "http://www.timeforchess.com"]
[Date "2008.07.02"]
[EndDate "2008.07.14"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Nazgul12"]
[Black "Katastroof"]
[WhiteRating "1525"]
[BlackRating "1537"]
[WhiteELO "1525"]
[BlackELO "1537"]
[Result "1-0"]
[GameId "5171922"]
[Annotator "Schach-Datenbank.de/Chess-Database.com"]
1.e4 e5
({Computer-Analyse} 1...e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Nxe5 d6 4.Nf3 Nxe4 5.d3 Nf6 6.d4 $10)
({Kasparov, Gary - Kramnik, Vladimir (0-1) 1.e4} 1...c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5
e6 4.O-O Nge7 5.c3 a6 6.Be2 d5 7.exd5 Nxd5 8.d4 Be7 9.c4 Nf6 10.dxc5 Bxc5
11.Qxd8 Kxd8 12.Nc3 Ke7 13.Rd1 Rd8 14.Rxd8 Nxd8 15.a3 Bd7 16.b4 Bd6 17.Be3
h6 18.Rd1 Rc8 19.h3 Be8 20.Nd4 Nd7 21.f4 Bc7 22.Nb3 f6 23.c5 Nc6 24.Bf3
Rd8 25.h4 Ndb8 26.Rxd8 Nxd8 27.Kf2 Nbc6 28.g3 Bf7 29.Nd2 Bg6 30.h5 Bd3
31.Be2 Bh7 32.Nc4 Bg8 33.Bf3 Kd7 34.Ke2 Ne7 35.Kd3 Ndc6 36.Bf2 e5 37.Nb6
Kd8 38.Ncd5 Bxd5 39.Nxd5 Nxd5 40.Bxd5 exf4 41.gxf4 Bxf4 42.Ke4 Bc1 43.a4
Nxb4 44.Bxb7 Kc7 45.Ba8 Kb8 46.Bd5 f5 47.Kxf5 Nxd5 48.Bd4 Nf6 49.Kg6 Kc7
50.Be5 Kc6 51.Kxg7 Nd7 52.Bd4 Nxc5 53.Kg6 Ne6 54.Bf6 Kc5 55.Be7 Kc4 56.Kf5
Nf4 57.Kg4 Kb3 58.a5 Ka4 59.Bd8 Ne6 60.Bb6 Bg5 61.Kf5 Nf4 62.Kg4 Nd5 63.Kf5
Kb5)
({Kasparov, Gary - Anand, Viswanathan (0-1) 1.e4} 1...e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nd2
c5 4.exd5 Qxd5 5.dxc5 Bxc5 6.Ngf3 Nf6 7.Bd3 O-O 8.Qe2 Nbd7 9.Ne4 b6 10.Nxc5
Qxc5 11.Be3 Qc7 12.Bd4 Bb7 13.O-O-O Nc5 14.Be5 Nxd3 15.Rxd3 Qc4 16.Nd4
Be4 17.Re3 Qxa2 18.Bxf6 Bg6 19.Ra3 Qd5 20.h4 gxf6 21.h5 Qxd4 22.hxg6 hxg6
23.Rah3 f5 24.Rh4 f4 25.Qf3 Rac8 26.Rxf4 Qc5 27.c3 Kg7 28.Rhh4 Qe5 29.g3
Qe1 30.Kc2 Rcd8 31.Rd4 Qe5 32.Rhf4 Qc7 33.Qe3 e5 34.Rxd8 Rxd8 35.Re4 Rd5
36.g4 b5 37.g5 Qd6 38.f3 a5 39.Qe2 Qe6 40.Qh2 Qf5 41.Qg3 Qd7 42.Qe1 b4
43.cxb4 Qa4 44.b3 Qa2 45.Kc3 a4 46.bxa4 Qa3 47.Kc2 Qxa4 48.Kc3 Qa3 49.Kc2
Rd3)
({Anand, Viswanathan - Kamsky, Gata (0-1) 1.e4} 1...d5 2.exd5 Nf6 3.d4
Nxd5 4.Nf3 Bg4 5.Be2 Nc6 6.c4 Nb6 7.d5 Bxf3 8.gxf3 Ne5 9.f4 Ned7 10.Nc3
c6 11.dxc6 bxc6 12.Be3 e6 13.Qc2 Nf6 14.Bd3 Qc7 15.O-O-O Be7 16.Ne4 Nxe4
17.Bxe4 f5 18.Bg2 O-O 19.Rd3 Rab8 20.Rhd1 c5 21.h3 Rfd8 22.b3 Nd7 23.Qb2
Nf8 24.Qe5 Rdc8 25.Qxc7 Rxc7 26.Kc2 Kf7 27.a4 a5 28.Bd2 Ra7 29.Bc6 Rc8
30.Bb5 Rcc7 31.Be3 h6 32.Rg1 Ng6 33.Kd2 e5 34.Be8 Kxe8 35.Rxg6 Kf7 36.Rb6
g5 37.Ke2 gxf4 38.Bd2 Rcb7 39.Rb5 Ke6 40.Rc3 Bd6 41.Rc1 e4 42.Rg1 f3 43.Ke1
Rg7 44.Rf1 f4 45.Kd1 Rg2 46.Rb6 Rf7 47.Re1 e3 48.fxe3 f2 49.Rf1 f3 50.Kc2
Kd7 51.Rb7 Ke8 52.Rxf7 Kxf7 53.e4 Bg3 54.Be3 Rg1 55.Rxg1 fxg1=Q 56.Bxg1
f2 57.Bxf2 Bxf2 58.Kd3 Ke6 59.Ke2 Bd4 60.Kf3 Ke5 61.Kg4 Kxe4 62.Kh5 Be3
63.Kg6 Kd3 64.Kf5 Kc3 65.Ke4 Bd4 66.Kd5 Kxb3 67.h4 Kxa4 68.h5 Kb4 69.Kc6
a4 70.Kd6 a3 71.Ke6 a2 72.Kf5 Kxc4 73.Kg6 a1=Q 74.Kxh6 Qg1 75.Kh7 Qg7)
({Kasparov, Gary - Yermolinsky, Alexander (0-1) 1.e4} 1...Nf6 2.e5 Nd5
3.d4 d6 4.Nf3 Bg4 5.Be2 e6 6.O-O Be7 7.h3 Bh5 8.c4 Nb6 9.exd6 cxd6 10.Nbd2
O-O 11.b3 Nc6 12.Bb2 Bf6 13.a3 d5 14.c5 Nc8 15.b4 a6 16.Rc1 N8xe7 17.Nb3
Bxf3 18.Bxf3 Nf5 19.Bg4 g6 20.Qd3 Bg7 21.Bc3 Qf6 22.Bxf5 Qxf5 23.Qxf5 exf5
24.a4 Nd8 25.b5 Ne6 26.Ra1 Rfc8 27.Rfd1 b6 28.Rdc1 bxc5 29.b6 cxd4 30.Bb2
Rab8 31.a5 Rc4 32.Nd2 Rxc1 33.Rxc1 Kf8 34.Nb3 Be5 35.Ba3 Ke8 36.Re1 f6
37.f4 Nxf4 38.Bd6 Rd8 39.Bc7 d3 40.Kf2 d2 41.Rxe5 fxe5 42.Nxd2 Nd3 43.Ke3
Nc5 44.Bxe5 Kd7 45.Nf3 Re8 46.Kd4 Nb3 47.Kxd5 Nxa5 48.Bf4 Kc8)
({Ehlvest, Jaan - Kasparov, Gary (0-1) 1.e4} 1...c6 2.c4 d5 3.exd5 cxd5
4.cxd5 Nf6 5.Nc3 Nxd5 6.d4 Nc6 7.Nf3 Bg4 8.Qb3 Bxf3 9.gxf3 Nb6 10.Be3 e6
11.Rg1 Bb4 12.Bb5 Nd5 13.Rxg7 Qb6 14.Kf1 Nxc3 15.Bxc6 Qxc6 16.bxc3 Bf8
17.Rg5 Be7 18.Rb5 Qxf3 19.Rxb7 O-O 20.Rb1 Bf6 21.Qd1 Qh3 22.Ke2 Kh8 23.Qh1
e5 24.Qf3 Qe6 25.d5 Qa6 26.Ke1 Bg7 27.Rxf7 e4 28.Rxf8 Rxf8 29.Qxe4 Bxc3
30.Kd1 Bg7 31.a4 Rc8 32.Rb5 Qf6 33.Qg4 Rd8 34.Ke2 Qc3 35.Rb7 Qc2 36.Kf1
Qd3 37.Kg1 Rg8 38.Bg5 Qxd5 39.Rxg7 Rxg7 40.Bf6 Qd1)
({Kasparov, Gary - Sznapik, Aleksander (0-1) 1.e4} 1...g6 2.d4 Bg7 3.Nc3
d6 4.f4 Nf6 5.Nf3 O-O 6.Bd3 Na6 7.O-O c5 8.d5 Rb8 9.a4 Nc7 10.b3 b6 11.Qe2
a6)
({Kasparov, Gary - Holzke, Frank (0-1) 1.e4} 1...d6 2.d4 Nf6 3.Nc3 c6 4.f4
Qa5 5.Bd3 e5 6.dxe5 dxe5 7.f5 b5 8.Nf3 b4 9.Ne2 Nbd7 10.O-O Bc5 11.Kh1
Ng4 12.Ng3 h5 13.Ng5 Ndf6 14.Qf3 Ba6 15.Bd2 Rd8 16.a3 Bxd3 17.cxd3 Qb5
18.Bxb4 Bxb4 19.axb4 h4 20.Ne2 Rxd3 21.Nc3 Rxf3 22.gxf3 Qxb4 23.fxg4 O-O
24.Rf2 Qe7 25.Rg1 Rd8 26.Nf3 Qc5 27.Rff1 Qe3 28.Nxe5 Nxe4 29.Rf3 h3 30.Rgf1
Qd2)
({Filipenko, Alexander V - Kramnik, Vladimir (0-1) 1.e4} 1...b6 2.d4 Bb7
3.f3 e6 4.Be3 Nf6 5.c4 c5 6.d5 Bd6 7.Nc3 Be5 8.Bd3 exd5 9.cxd5 O-O 10.Nge2
Re8 11.Qd2 a6 12.a4 d6 13.O-O Nbd7 14.Nd1 Rc8 15.Rc1 Nf8 16.f4 Bd4 17.Bxd4
cxd4 18.Nf2 N8xd7 19.b4 a5 20.Nxd4 Rxc1 21.Rxc1 axb4 22.Qxb4 Nc5 23.Bb1
Nfxe4 24.Nxe4 Nxe4 25.Nc6 Bxc6 26.Bxe4 Bd7 27.Bf3 Qf6 28.Rd1 g6 29.Qxb6
Bxa4 30.Rf1 Rc8 31.Qe3 Bd7 32.h3 Rc4 33.Be4 Qd4 34.Re1 Qxe3 35.Rxe3 Rd4
36.Kf2 Bb5 37.Kg3 Bc4 38.f5 Kg7 39.fxg6 hxg6 40.Bf3 Bxd5)
({Speelman, Jonathan S - Basman, Michael J (0-1) 1.e4} 1...g5 2.d4 h6 3.h4
gxh4 4.Rxh4 d5 5.exd5 e6 6.Rh5 Nf6 7.dxe6 Bxe6 8.Nc3 Nxh5 9.Qxh5 Bb4 10.Ne2
Nc6 11.Be3 Qd7 12.a3 Bg4 13.Qb5 a6 14.Qd3 Bxc3 15.Qxc3 O-O-O 16.f3 Be6
17.O-O-O Ne7 18.Nf4 Nd5 19.Nxd5 Bxd5 20.Qd2 Qc6 21.Kb1 h5 22.Bg5 Rde8 23.Bf4
Bc4 24.Be5 Rhg8 25.d5 Bxd5 26.Qd4 Bb3 27.Bd3 Rd8 28.Qe3 Bc4 29.Qa7 Bxd3
30.cxd3 Qb6 31.Qxb6 cxb6 32.g3 Kd7 33.Bf4 Kc6 34.Rc1 Kb5 35.Rc7 Rxd3 36.Rxf7
Rxf3 37.Rf5 Kc4 38.Rxh5 Kb3 39.Rh1 Rf2 40.Bc1 Rxg3 41.Rh7 b5 42.Rc7 b6
43.Rc6 Rh3 44.Rg6 Rc2 45.Rg1 a5 46.Rg6 Rc5)
({Palmo, Pentti - Rantanen, Yrjo A (0-1) 1.e4} 1...a5 2.d4 a4 3.c4 c6 4.Nf3
g6 5.a3 Bg7 6.Nc3 Qa5 7.Bd2 d6 8.h3 e5 9.dxe5 dxe5 10.Nb5 Qd8 11.Bg5 Qa5
12.Bd2 Qd8 13.Bg5 f6 14.Nd6 Ke7 15.Nxc8 Qxc8 16.Be3 Nd7 17.c5 Qc7 18.Rc1
Bh6 19.Bxh6 Nxh6 20.Qc2 Ra5 21.Qd2 Nf7 22.Qb4 Nd8 23.Bc4 Nxc5 24.O-O b6
25.Nd2 Nb7 26.Be2 Rd8 27.Nf3 Kf7 28.Rfd1 Raa8 29.Rxd8 Rxd8 30.Rd1 Rxd1
31.Bxd1 b5 32.Be2 Qa5 33.Qxa5 Nxa5 34.Nd2 Nab3 35.Nxb3 Nxb3 36.f3 Ke7 37.Kf2
Kd6 38.Ke3 Kc5 39.Bd1 Na5 40.Kd3 Nc4 41.b4 Kb6 42.Bxa4 Nb2)
({Harman, Kenneth B - Basman, Michael J (0-1) 1.e4} 1...h6 2.d4 a6 3.Bd3
d6 4.Ne2 Nc6 5.c3 e5 6.Be3 Nf6 7.d5 Ne7 8.f3 g5 9.c4 Ng6 10.Nbc3 Nf4 11.Nxf4
gxf4 12.Bf2 h5 13.Qd2 h4 14.O-O-O Nd7 15.Kb1 Qf6 16.Be2 Rg8 17.Rhg1 Be7
18.Rc1 c5 19.dxc6 bxc6 20.c5 Nxc5 21.Bxc5 dxc5 22.Na4 Rb8 23.Nxc5 h3 24.Bd1
Qd6 25.Qe2 Qd4)
({Hansen, Lars Bo - Windelboe, Werner (0-1) 1.e4} 1...a6 2.Nf3 b5 3.g3
Bb7 4.d3 g6 5.Bg2 Bg7 6.O-O c5 7.Nbd2 Nc6 8.Re1 d6 9.a4 e6 10.h4 Nge7 11.c3
h6 12.Nf1 O-O 13.N1xh2 b4 14.Bd2 a5 15.Ng4 Kh7 16.h5 gxh5 17.Ne3 Ng6 18.Nc4
d5 19.exd5 exd5 20.Ne3 Nce7 21.Nh2 h4 22.Qh5 hxg3 23.fxg3 f5 24.Bh3 d4
25.cxd4 Bxd4 26.Nf3 Qd5 27.Ng5 Kg7 28.Kh2 Bxe3 29.Rxe3 hxg5 30.Qxg5 Kf7
31.Rae1 Rae8 32.Re6 Rh8 33.Qf6 Kg8 34.Rg1 Qf3)
({Timmerman, Gert Jan - Dijk, Harold van (0-1) 1.e4} 1...Nc6 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4
Nf6 4.Nc3 g6 5.Be2 Bg7 6.O-O O-O 7.h3 e5 8.Be3 exd4 9.Nxd4 Re8 10.Nxc6
bxc6 11.Bf3 Rb8 12.Rb1 c5 13.Re1 Bd7 14.Qd2 Bc6 15.e5 Bxf3 16.exf6 Qxf6
17.Bg5 Qf5 18.gxf3 Qxh3 19.Rxe8 Rxe8 20.Re1 Rxe1 21.Qxe1 Be5 22.f4 Qg4
23.Kf1 Bxf4 24.Bxf4 Qxf4 25.Qe3 Qf5 26.Qe4 Qxe4 27.Nxe4 Kf8 28.Nf6 h5 29.Nd7
Ke7 30.Nb8 d5 31.Nc6 Kd7 32.Ne5 Ke6 33.f4 Kf5 34.Nxf7 Kxf4 35.Nd8 Ke3 36.Ne6
c6 37.Nxc5 Kd2 38.Nd3 d4 39.a4 Kxc2 40.Nb4 Kxb2 41.Ke2 h4 42.Nxc6 h3 43.Ne5
h2 44.Nd3 Kc2)
({Morphy, Paul - Barnes, Thomas (0-1) 1.e4} 1...f6 2.d4 e6 3.Bd3 Ne7 4.Be3
d5 5.Nc3 dxe4 6.Nxe4 Nd5 7.Nh3 Be7 8.Qh5 g6 9.Qh6 Bf8 10.Qh4 Bg7 11.O-O
O-O 12.c4 Nxe3 13.fxe3 f5 14.Neg5 h6 15.Nf3 e5 16.Qxd8 Rxd8 17.Bc2 exd4
18.exd4 Bxd4 19.Nxd4 Rxd4 20.Rfe1 Kf7 21.c5 Be6 22.Rad1 Nc6 23.Rxd4 Nxd4
24.Ba4 g5 25.Rd1 Rd8 26.a3 f4 27.Nf2 Ne2 28.Kf1 Rxd1 29.Bxd1 Nd4 30.Ke1
Kf6 31.Kd2 Nb3 32.Bxb3 Bxb3 33.Ng4 Kg6 34.g3 h5 35.Nf2 Kf5 36.Kc3 Bd5 37.Kd4
c6 38.b4 Bg2 39.gxf4 Kxf4 40.a4 Bf1 41.Ne4 h4 42.Nd2 Be2 43.Ne4 g4 44.Nf2
Kf3 45.Ne4 Bf1 46.Ke5 Bd3 47.Ng5 Kg2 48.Kd6 Kxh2 49.Kc7 Kg3 50.Kxb7 h3)
2.Ng1f3
({Computer-Analyse} 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 a6 4.Ba4 Bc5 5.Bxc6 dxc6 6.Nc3 Bg4
7.Na4 Bb4 8.O-O Bxf3 9.Qxf3 Bxd2 10.Bxd2 Qxd2 $10)
({Kasparov, Gary - Bareev, Evgeny (1-0) 1.e4 e5} 2.Bc4 Nf6 3.d3 c6 4.Nf3
d5 5.Bb3 a5 6.Nc3 Bb4 7.a3 Bxc3 8.bxc3 Nbd7 9.exd5 Nxd5 10.O-O O-O 11.Re1
Re8 12.c4 Ne7 13.Ng5 h6 14.Ne4 a4 15.Ba2 c5 16.Nd6 Rf8 17.c3 Ng6 18.Bb1
Nf6 19.Nxc8 Qxc8 20.Qf3 Re8 21.Bc2 Nh4 22.Qg3 g5 23.d4 Nf5 24.Qh3 e4 25.f3
exf3 26.Rxe8 Qxe8 27.Bxg5 hxg5 28.Qxf5 Qe3 29.Kh1 fxg2 30.Kxg2 Qe2 31.Kg1
Ng4 32.Qh7 Kf8 33.Rf1 f6 34.Bg6)
({Short, Nigel D - Kasparov, Gary (1-0) 1.e4 e5} 2.f4 exf4 3.Bc4 Qh4 4.Kf1
b5 5.Bxb5 Nf6 6.Nf3 Qh5 7.Nc3 g5 8.d4 Bb7 9.h4 Rg8 10.Kg1 gxh4 11.Rxh4
Qg6 12.Qe2 Nxe4 13.Rxf4 f5 14.Nh4 Qg3 15.Nxe4)
({Kaidanov, Gregory - Bareev, Evgeny (1-0) 1.e4 e5} 2.Nc3 Nf6 3.Bc4 Nxe4
4.Qh5 Nd6 5.Bb3 Nc6 6.Nb5 g6 7.Qf3 f5 8.Qd5 Qe7 9.Nxc7 Kd8 10.Nxa8 b6 11.Nxb6
axb6 12.d3 Bb7 13.Qf3 Nd4 14.Qh3 h5 15.f3 f4 16.Bd2 Bg7 17.O-O-O N6xf5
18.Re1 Kc7 19.Ne2 Nxb3 20.axb3 Qd6 21.Nc3 Nd4 22.Ne4 Ra8 23.Bc3 Bxe4 24.fxe4
f3 25.Bxd4 Qb4 26.Bxb6 Kxb6 27.Kb1 Qa5 28.c3 Qa2 29.Kc2 Ra3 30.Ra1)
Etc.....it's too big for a single post here.Pretty cool if you want some reference games.And it only takes 1 second :)I want to get in contact with a French speaking chess player who lives in Canada. Unfortunately my French vocabulary consists of the phrase "Le singe est dans l'arbre", which is of limited use in this situation. If there are any French speaking Canadians reading this, please PM me and I'll send you the guy's phone number and the message.
Thanks a lot![gid]4821342[/gid]
This morning, I've linked this game in the 75 pages thread : CHECKMATE in under 20 moves. But I got the feeling that a dedicated thread for Horse Ballet was missing... Sorry for posting twice the same subjet.
Pizza[gid]5116415[/gid] Not in 45 years of playing have I had a position like this in one of my games, I would have thought the queen could easily win, but after consulting 2 extremely strong players, the general concensus was that even if there is a win with correct play it would probably take more than 50 moves, which would still make it a draw. The game itself was full of errors made at the 1600 level of course but if anyone likes different engame positons this one is worth looking at.Hi all,
In one of my games (and never mind which, it's still ongoing) I've recently chosen to take what is for me a major gamble and sacrifice my queen while my opponent's queen was still on the board. The move seems despite all chess logic to have gained me a material advantage that I didn't have beforehand, and I'm feeling confident that I'll take home a win from it.
This move's got me thinking: under what general circumstances would you willingly sac a queen if there was no guarantee that you'd get your oppenent's queen out of the deal? Needless to say, I ask that you do not comment on any ongoing games, whether mine or otherwise.Just went over this game of mine.Some things I couldn't figure out.Could check fritz but prefer human input.Anyone have some comments/ideas.Would be appreciated :)
[gid]5171922[/gid]
[Event "Open invite"]
[Site "http://www.timeforchess.com"]
[Date "2008.07.02"]
[EndDate "2008.07.14"]
[Round "?"]
[White "Nazgul12"]
[Black "Katastroof"]
[WhiteRating "1525"]
[BlackRating "1536"]
[WhiteELO "1525"]
[BlackELO "1536"]
[Result "1-0"]
[GameId "5171922"]
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 f5 4. Bxc6 dxc6 5. Nxe5 {Taking me out of book.It's
probably a common move but it's not covered in my book and I don't use DB's.
} Qd4 {Ok,this allows the intresting 6.Qh5+,as played in the game,with a
knightsac.Still,i'm convinced it's the best move for Black.In fact,it's the
only decent move I can think of.} 6. Qh5+ g6 7. Nxg6 hxg6 8. Qxg6+ Kd8 9. d3 {
Up untill now all my moves were more or less forced.Now I took some time to
assess my position and plan a course of action.I got a knight for 3 pawns,
that's ok,but my king's a bit out in the open.On the other hand,white can't
really get to it yet cause he lacks development,the queen is his only piece in
play.So I decide to develop as quickly as possible and mount an attack on his
king.} Ne7 10. Qg3 {10.Bg5,Qxb2 11.Qf6,Qxf6 12.Bxf6,Rg8 looks fine for black.}
fxe4 {Maybe Rg8 was better allthough I don't really see how.I played fxe4 to
get my knight to f5,kicking the queen and getting the knight closer to the
enemy king.In retrospect,it doesn't seem such a grand idea.On the other hand,
there doesn't seem to be much else.Ideas anyone?} 11. Nc3 Nf5 12. Bg5+ Be7 {
This,I think,is a mistake.My bishop could've proven very useful,on b4 perhaps,
or on d6.Instead Ke8,only other option because I'm not gonna sac my queen and
I'd rather resign than play Kd7,was called for.} 13. Bxe7+ Kxe7 14. Qxc7+ Bd7
15. Nxe4 Qxb2 16. O-O Rac8 17. Qa5 b6 {Designed to get the white queen out of
the action in case she captures a7.Surely that would aid my attack,right?Now I
think the straigthforward Rcg8 is better.} 18. Qxa7 Qe5 19. g3 Nd4 20. f4 Ne2+
{This gave me a headache.still does actually LOL!I considered Ne2,Nf3 and Qh5.
20...,Qh5 got ruled out quickly,it fails to 21.Qxd7+,Kxd7 22.Nf6+ forking K
and Q.But I still can't decide between Ne2+ and Nf3+.No matter how I shuffle
the pieces I always end up worse.Maybe my position is simply worse?In the game
I opted for Ne2 for the sole reason it was the first move to enter my head.
Your first idea is usually best,you know?Any ideas would be welcome here.} 21.
Kg2 Qh5 {Guess what I forgot all about.....yup,the knightfork.HA!} 22. h4 {
He doesn't see it.Or he decided it wasn't good enough.} Rcg8 {Bringing up the
last reserves.I now deliberate ignore the knightfork tactic.he didn't see it/
play it earlier,let's just gamble he won't do it now either.Not the best way
to play chess,I know,I know.} 23. Rae1 Nxg3 {Seeing my attacking aspirations
demolished I tried this sac.Thought I could wriggle my way into a draw.How
wrong I was...} 24. Nxg3+ Kd6 25. Re4 Qg4 26. Rd4+ Kc5 {Walking into a mate in
6.Maybe Ke7 would've saved,but still don't like my position after that.} 27.
Qa3+ Kxd4 28. Qd6+ Kc3 29. Qe5+ Kb4 30. Rb1+ Ka3 31. Qb2+ Ka4 32. Qb4#
Edits: Couldn't get it to show up on a board.Says "invalid pgn inserted" :(One minute I'm reading about these two guys are going to
catch an 'obvious cheat' (their words not mine).
And they were deciding what games to look at - what level to set
their computer at and size of hash tables.
All very interesting. Bordering on paranoia, but interesting.
Suddenly 'ZONK!' it had all gone....
You don't need a computer - I reckon experienced players can
smell silicon by simply playing over a game.
Some box moves have a distinct non-human feel about them.
As for picking out one or two box moves from a complete game.
You would have to be good enough to spot the critical moves
where a box might used and conduct your test from these moves.
Or simply shrug your shoulders and say so what....
On another site (I think it's ChessWorld.com) they don't try to catch
computer cheats because their site gradings go so high they just
end up playing each other.Never had it come up before, thought it would be easy. It wasn't. I had to read up on the endgame to see how it was done. Just when I thought I knew everything about chess.
http://www.timeforchess.com/core/playchess.php?gameid=5200879I started playing chess last year and began with the Colle (Koltanowski) . Now I'm trying to expand my repetiore to avoid playing the Colle against the wrong defense.
I've already figured out what I want to do if I get a King side fianchetto-> Barry Attack.
It seems that the most important aspect of the Barry is to free up the black bishop before e3. If I open with 1.d4 2.Nf3 3.Nbd2 4.c3 I figure I can give black enough time to tip his hand.
I'm not sure exactly what to do against the Slav or Semi-Slav. I have Oleinkov's book and he suggest following up Bg4 or Bf5 with c3 and eventually Qb3, but I have no feel for this line what so ever. Any suggestions on where I can pick up information on this move?
Really Bg4 doesn't bother my normal colle development at all. I just take with my queen if the bishop takes my knight. My knight on d2 is the important knight for my e4 push.
I'd also like to know any suggestions for getting information on the Zuckertort. I'm afraid I don't want to spend better than $100 for Summerscale's book. I'd consider getting the foxy DVD, but my DVD player doesn't like the Barry DVD so I'm not sure I'm going to get another Foxy.
I'd like to know what defenses the Zukertort is good against that the Koltanowski is weak. From what I understand, the Dutch is a good candidate for the Zuke.
Any suggestions would be welcome. I really enjoy playing the Colle. I'm just trying to avoid bad situations. Btw, my FICS rating is about 1000 Blitz and 1350 Standard if that gives you any idea of where I'm at.How do you feel about trading queens with someone obviously more skillful than you?
Would you feel more comfortable playing with a queen against that person or more comfortable when they are without their queen?http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0,8599,1821639,00.html?cnn=yes
I've never heard of this but if you could pick one chess player to punch- besides myself for posting this- who would it be?I keep putting his king in check by 2 of 3 ways, depending on what he does, and this will go on forever. How can communicate with this guy that I'm not going to do somethng else (like he's hoping), we will just be in one of these 3 positions forever?1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.c3
Anybody play it? Give any insight? A good weapon in class play 1000-1600? It looks strange for obvious reasons (3.c3 just seems passive and takes away a good square for the knight), but black can get into trouble early if he makes natural developing moves, and since it's such an offbeat opening chance are lower class players wouldn't know the lines. Even when black knows the lines the worst that happens is that they probably achieve early equality, but at lower class play this means chances for both sides, not just a boring draw :-)The Streetfighter's kid brother knows a thing or two about
fighting over the board. Witness this game which is in the frame
for the £50 swindle prize.
[pgn]
[Event "115th Scottish International"]
[Site "?"]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "McGreechin J (2)"]
[Black "Burnett W (2)"]
[Result "0-1"]
[PlyCount "120"]
1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 d6 3.d4 Nf6 4.Nc3 cxd4 5.Nxd4 g6 6.Be3 Bg7 7.f3 O-O 8.Bc4 Nc6 9.Qd2 Bd7 10.h4 Ne5 11.Bb3 Rc8 12.h5 Nc4 13.Bxc4 Rxc4 14.O-O-O b5 15.Bh6 Rxd4 16.Qxd4 Bxh6+ 17.Kb1 Bg7 18.e5 dxe5 19.Qxa7 Qb8 20.Rxd7 Qxa7 21.Rxa7 b4 22.Na4 e6 23.Rb7 Nd5 24.Nb6 Nf4 25.h6 Bh8 26.Nd7 Rd8 27.Rxb4 Nxg2 28.Rd1 Ne3 29.Nf6+ Bxf6 30.Rxd8+ Bxd8 31.Rb8 f5 32.Rxd8+ Kf7 33.Rd7+ Kf6 34.a4 e4 35.fxe4 f4 36.Rd3 Nc4 37.b3 Ne5 38.Rd2 g5 39.a5 f3 40.a6 Nc6 41.b4 Na7 42.c4 g4 43.Rf2 Kg5 44.b5 Nc8 45.c5 Kh4 46.b6 g3 47.Rxf3 g2 48.b7 g1=Q+ 49.Kc2 Qh2+ 50.Kd1 Na7 51.Rb3 Nc6 52.a7 Nd4 53.Rc3 Qe2+ 54.Kc1 Qe1+ 55.Kb2 Qd2+ 56.Kb1 Ne2 57.Rc2 Qb4+ 58.Rb2 Qxe4+ 59.Ka1 Qa4+ 60.Kb1 Nc3+ 0-1[/pgn]While I am barely pushing 1200 I keep playing a bunch of 13-1500 players accepting my open invites?Anybody tried this site out or know anything about it
http://ultimatecheckmate.com/
Surely this is the place for engine users.Does anyone know if Tim Krabbe has stopped updating his Chess Curiosities site? The last new entry was 21st May.
AlanI've come to the conclusion that my main problem OTB is the over-analyzing of positions leading to shortness of time. Just had a frustrating experience at the New York State Open where I thoroughly outplayed the player who wound up finishing tied for second (U1600) in the middlegame and was in an endgame 3 pawns up (R + B v. R + N) and should have won easily, but got very rattled with only a few minutes left on the clock and let him escape with a draw after blundering down to only a 2 v. 1 pawn advantage (had only 52 seconds left at the end).
I understand the basic process of selecting "candidate moves" and then paring them done but is their any book out there that concentrates on how to do this in an optimally efficient manner? If anyone knows of one, please share.
As an aside, is there anything in Silman's Assess Your Chess dealing with this issues? I saw it on sale at my local bookstore.Is there a 50 move rule in RHP.
That's the one where if the opponent is left with a king, you have to checkmate him in less than 50 moves or it's a draw.
Does it start counting if the rest of his pawns are blocked and his only legal moves are with the king.Taken from the perfect Chess board thread:
Originally Posted by nfms
I'd say pieces that look like star wars characters or maybe famous chess players.
Originally Posted by Najdork
I like the famous chess players idea. This could start another thread by asking who would you choose for each piece.
This is a cool idea for a thread.
So let's hear it - who should be in a famous players set?
Modern vs historical players? (I'm thinking Kasparov and Lasker as the kings, due to their long reigns as world champions, but Morphy would have to be a top figure on the historical side, too)
World Champions vs their rivals?
Soviets (Russians?) vs everyone else? (Kasparov and Fischer as kings? After all, Fischer's the epitome of anti-Soviet )
Players with K names vs other Russians?
Classical vs FIDE World Champions (with Anand on both sides!!!)
I think it's safe to assume that Judit Polgar would be a queen in any set that includes modern players. Unless it was a male vs female set, in which case, she might be the king on the female side instead!
I've got another one - Players with openings named after them! Najdorf would be the a7 pawn, Ruy Lopez as the f1 bishop...
--Fromper
Original thread found at http://www.chessforums.org/general-chess-discussion/2467-famous-chess-players-set.html
Just wanted to see what your thought of this ideaAfter my skull proportion thread it occurred to me to follow up what happened to the opponents who've beaten me while I've been on OTB.
So far I've lost 4 games out of 40 completed. 2 of the people who beat me have subsequently been banned.
50% of losses to players who went on to be banned. How does that proportion compare to RHPers in general?When Weyerstrass finally loses a game let's celebrate his humanity by eating cup cakes. He's invited to the party, and I hope he makes some kind of speech. If he never loses a game let's start a religion after him.[pgn]
[site "FICS"]
[Whiteplayer "BaukeStaunton"]
[Blackplayer "Alphastar"]
[whiteELO "1776"]
[blackELO "1723"]
[timecontrol "3 0"]
1.e4 c6 2.d4 d5 3.e5 Bf5 4.Nc3 e6 5.g4 Bg6
6.Nge2 f6 7.Nf4 fxe5 8.Nxg6 hxg6 9.Bd3 e4 10.Be2 Nd7
11.f3 Qh4+ 12.Kf1 Ngf6 13.Bf4 g5 14.Bg3 Qh3+ 15.Kf2 c5
16.fxe4 cxd4 17.Nb5 Nxe4+ 18.Ke1 Qxg3+ 19.hxg3 Rxh1+ 20.Bf1 O-O-O
21.Qxd4 Bc5 22.Qxg7 Nxg3 23.Rd1 Be3 24.Nd6+ Kb8 25.Qf7 Rf8 0-1[/pgn]
meh, can't believe I missed 14. ..Qxg3 :|
23. ..Be3 was wishful thinking, white could've wriggled out of his trouble with 24. Qc3+.Just clicked my first skull ...
was rook and pawn up in a major piece ending so didn't feel too bad about it.
Anyhoo - it was my 40th completed game here at RHP. I was just wondering if one skull opportunity every 40 games was about average. Skulls seem to be talked about a good deal more often than I get to see them. Perhaps my experience is unusual?There's a new gizmo that consists of a folding chess clock that randomly generates starting positions for Fischer random chess (chess 960 as some call it). It's quite cheap as well.
http://www.newinchess.com/Shop/ProductDetails.aspx?ProductID=2534&Currency=Euroit took me 2 weeks to get this player into c/mate, he still had 2 pawns, and my last move was c/mate, nailed on but when submitted the site stated STALEMATE. surely if the jobs been done then it should take precedent over stalemate, as obviously it wasn't any more!!!!!!I'm feeling smug cos I just beat a higher graded player ... but where did he go wrong?
Is this a known 'trap'?
[gid]5194317[/gid]cannot make the link work--sorryWe always discuss about openings and tactics here. How about some short stories.
Yesterday I was in the University and in the hall I've met some of professors. And he arrived with his say 12 year old son who was carrying big, beautiful chess set in its hands. I didn't say nothing because I do not know the boy. BUT I FELT THE HORRIBLY STRONG NEED TO ASK HIM A GAME !!! Altough I was late for class.
Other example ; I had to play on some concert. In front of the hall there was a pub. So all of us went to pub and there were old man playing chess !! Again I FELT THE HORRIBLY STRONG NEED TO ASK THEM A GAME !!! I almost went to the my own concert too late because I wanted to stay there and watch ! :S
Every time when I see someone playing or discussing chess I go crazy and I want to partecipate so badly I get mad !
Probably lack of some good chess club is my problem.
Do you have such problems with chess addiction ?Sorry, just had too.
In the meantime here is a new opening system for white or black.
[pgn] 1.Nf3 d5 2.Ng1 Nc6 3.Nf3 Nf6 4. Ng1 e5 5.Nf3 Be7 6. Ng1 0-0 7.Nf3 [/pgn]
Repeat until you can't. Let's see some blitz games!I just played this game in a blitz (on another site) and wanted to share it as it is one of the closest scrapes I have ever had...
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Nxe5 d6 4.Nf3 Nxe4 5.Nc3 Nxc3 6.dxc3 Be7 7.Bf4 o-o 8.Bd3 Be6 9.Qe2 Nc6 10.o-o-o Bf6 11.h3 Bxa2 12.g4 a5 13.g5 Bd7 14.h4 a4 15.h5 a3 16.g6 Bd5 17.h6 a2 18.gxh7+ Kh8 19.hxg7+ Kg7 20.Bh6+ Kh8 21.Bg7+ Kxg7 22.Qh6+ Kh8 23.Rhg1 a1=Q+ 24.Kd2 Qxd1+ 25.Kxd1 Bxf3+ 26.Kd2 Bf6 27.Rg8+ Rxg8 28.hxg8=Q+ Kxg8 29.Bh7+ Kh8 30.Bg6+ Kg8 31.Qh7+ Kf8 32.Qxf7 1-0
[pgn]
[Event "Joeys Immortal Game"]
[Site "FICS"]
[Date "2008.07.09"]
[EventDate "?"]
[Round "?"]
[Result "1-0"]
[White "T Chex"]
[Black "Norkia"]
[ECO "B14"]
[WhiteElo "?"]
[BlackElo "?"]
[PlyCount "59"]
1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nf6 3.Nxe5 d6 4.Nf3 Nxe4 5.Nc3 Nxc3 6.dxc3 Be7 7.Bf4 O-O 8.Bd3 Be6 9.Qe2 Nc6 10.O-O-O Bf6 11.h3 Bxa2 12.g4 a5 13.g5 Bd7 14.h4 a4 15.h5 a3 16.g6 Bd5 17.h6 a2 18.gxh7+ Kh8 19.hxg7+ Kg7 20.Bh6+ Kh8 21.Bg7+ Kxg7 22.Qh6+ Kh8 23.Rhg1 a1=Q+ 24.Kd2 Qxd1+ 25.Kxd1 Bxf3+ 26.Kd2 Bf6 27.Rg8+ Rxg8 28.hxg8=Q+ Kxg8 29.Bh7+ Kh8 30.Bg6+ Kg8 31.Qh7+ Kf8 32.Qxf7 1-0
[/pgn]Here is a novel idea. Rather than spending lots of money
"booking up" on the latest opening theory, it might be better to spend our time studying our favorite openings, with an idea of finding our own improvements. I don't have the exact quote, but when Karpov was asked what advise he would give to aspiring
players, he said: Don't forget the old games! Finding improvments
on old theory will give you a big advantage over your opponents.
Sound like a plan?I'm sure I made plenty of mistakes in this game, but I think 14 Nd6 won this game for me. I'm sure I made numerous mistakes, but I'm kind of proud of this game, and it really drills the importance of good piece positioning to me: [gid]5132919[/gid]I hope he will return someday ...haven't analyzed a game this much while playing it in a while. Spending a while going through different lines. Got interesting around move 32-34.
[gid]5093081[/gid]in the last game of Short-Karjakin match, there was a very interesting king chase, looking for a draw. Karjakin's king went all the way around it's pawns, without allowing it. here's the game:
[pgn]
[Event "Rapid Match"]
[Site "Kiev UKR"]
[Date "2008.06.07"]
[Round "10"]
[White "Short, N."]
[Black "Karjakin, Sergey"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "C78"]
[WhiteElo "2655"]
[BlackElo "2727"]
[PlyCount "148"]
[EventDate "2008.07.03"]
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O Bc5 6. c3 b5 7. Bb3 d6 8. d4 Bb6 9. Be3 Bg4 10. d5 Bxe3 11. fxe3 Ne7 12. Nbd2 O-O 13. Qe1 c6 14. dxc6 Nxc6 15. Nh4 Na5 16. Qg3 Nxb3 17. axb3 Bh5 18. b4 Bg6 19. Nxg6 hxg6 20. Qh4 d5 21. exd5 Nxd5 22. Qf2 a5 23. bxa5 Rxa5 24. Rad1 Qa8 25. Ne4 Ra6 26. Qf3 Nf6 27.Nxf6+ gxf6 28. e4 Qc6 29. h4 Qb6+ 30. Rf2 Rd8 31. Rdf1 Kg7 32. g4 Rd2 33. Kg2 Rxf2+ 34. Rxf2 Qe6 35. g5 fxg5 36. hxg5 b4 37. Qh3 Qc4 38. Qf3 bxc3 39. bxc3 Rc6 40. Kh2 Qb3 41. Kg2 Kg8 42. Rd2 Rxc3 43. Qf2 Qe6 44. Qh4 Rc8 45. Qg3 Kg7 46. Rd5 Rc2+ 47. Kh1 Qb6 48. Rd1 Qb2 49. Qh3 Rc1 50. Qf1 Rxd1 51. Qxd1 Qf2 52. Qg4 Qf4 53. Qg2 Kf8 54. Kg1 Ke7 55. Kh1 Kd6 56. Kg1 Kc5 57. Kh1 Kd4 58. Qb2+ Kxe4 59. Qc2+ Kd5 60. Qb3+ Kd6 61. Qb6+ Ke7 62. Qc5+ Ke6 63. Qc8+ Kd6 64. Qd8+ Kc5 65. Qa5+ Kc4 66. Qa4+ Kd5 67. Qa8+ Kd4 68. Qa4+ Ke3 69. Qb3+ Kf2 70. Qc2+ Kg3 71. Qf2+ Kg4 72. Qg2+ Kf5 73. Qh3+ Kxg5 74. Qg3+ Kf6 0-1 [/pgn]Maybe this is totally normal, and maybe it's been mentioned before, but redhotpawn.com is almost exactly the same site as timeforchess.com as far as I can see??
Are there other site names which also replicate what we have on redhotpawn??So do the big boys:
Kasparov screws up, looks like someone shoved a popsickle up his rear.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZqcT66Fkzw&feature=related
You suppose he left his Queen hanging LOL? It was probly a move most of us wouldn't even realize was bad.ready for removal.Pardon the noobish question, but can anyone sketch out briefly what all these tournament names mean?
what's the deal and where do I look it up on this site?Black to play and win!
[fen]8/pR4pk/1b5p/2p5/N1p2P2/6P1/PP1r2P1/6K1 b - - 0 1[/fen]A story J.R.Capablanca used to tell:
"I was playing in a tournament in germany one year when a man approached me. Thinking he just wanted an autograph, I reached for my pen, when the man made a startling announcement. 'I've solved chess!' I sensibly started to back away, in case the man was dangerous as well as insane, but the man continued: 'I'll bet you 50 marks that if you come back to my hotel room I can prove it to you.' Well, 50 marks was 50 marks, so I humored the fellow and accompanied him to his room."
"Back at the room, we sat down at his chess board. 'I've worked it all out, white mates in 12 no matter what.' I played black with perhaps a bit incautiously, but I found to my horror that white's pieces coordinated very strangely, and that I was going to be mated on the 12th move!"
"I tried again, and I played a completely different opening that couldn't possibly result in such a position, but after a series of very queer-looking moves, once again I found my king surrounded, with mate to fall on the 12th move. I asked the man to wait while I ran downstairs and fetched Emmanuel Lasker, who was world champion before me. He was extremely skeptical, but agreed to at least come and play. Along the way we snagged Alekhine, who was then world champion, and the three of us ran back up to the room."
"Lasker took no chances, but played as cautiously as could be, yet after a bizarre, pointless-looking series of maneuvers, found himself hemmed in a mating net from which there was no escape. Alekhine tried his hand, too, but all to no avail."
"It was awful! Here we were, the finest players in the world, men who had devoted our very lives to the game, and it was all over! The tournaments, the matches, everything - chess had been solved, white wins."
About this time Capa's friends would break in, saying "Wait a minute, I never heard anything about all this! What happened?"
"Why, we killed him, of course."Hey everyone. I just had a win that I wanted to comment a bit about, hopefully some people can learn something from this game. I think my play was fairly solid here.
[pgn][Event "Open invite"]
[Site "http://www.redhotpawn.com"]
[Date "2008.06.09"]
[EndDate "2008.07.07"]
[Round "?"]
[White "StOkamura"]
[Black "ChessJester"]
[WhiteRating "1496"]
[BlackRating "1570"]
[WhiteELO "1496"]
[BlackELO "1570"]
[Result "0-1"]
[GameId "5091791"]
1. d4 e6 2. Bc1f4 Ng8f6 3. e3 c5 4. Bf4xb8 Ra8xb8 5. Ng1f3 d5 6. Bf1b5 Bc8d7
7. Nb1c3 cxd4 8. Qd1xd4 Bd7xb5 9. Nc3xb5 Qd8a5 10. Nb5c3 Bf8b4 11. O-O Bb4xc3
12. bxc3 Rb8c8 13. Rf1b1 b6 14. Rb1b3 O-O 15. a4 Nf6e4 16. Ra1a3 Rc8c4
17. Qd4e5 Rf8c8 18. Rb3b5 Qa5a6 19. Qe5h5 Rc4xa4 20. Ra3b3 Rc8xc3
21. Nf3g5 Ne4xg5 22. Qh5xg5 f6 23. Qg5h5 Qa6xb5 24. g3 Ra4a1 25. Kg1g2 Qb5f1
26. Kg2f3 Qf1d1 0-1
[/pgn]
Whites first mistake was to take blacks knight with his bishop. For all of you who are not yet intermediate players or better, take note. White wasted that opening move developing his bishop because it was traded for a piece that hadn't moved yet at all.
The position at move six shows this. If you count the pieces developed, they are equal, both king side knights. But if you count the pawns developed, black has 3 pawns developed to whites 2.
7...cxd4, black initiates an exchange that accomplishes a number of things. It opens the dark bishop to view the b4 square in order to attack the knight and it creates a 1/2 open c-file for the black rooks to occupy which becomes vital later on.
8.Qxd4 Bxb5 This move forces whites knight to recapture. Now the black queen can be developed with check and tempo, forcing the white knight to retreat.
9.Nxb5 Qa5+ 10.Nc3 Bb5 The pressure is building on the c3 square.
11.0-0 White castles freeing the knight, but black won't let the pressure on c3 escape.
11...Bxc3 This doubles whites pawns. Now white has doubled isolated pawns, a serious disadvantage in this position. Blacks pieces will bear down upon this pawn until it is captured... but as white struggles to defend more opportunities arise for black.
Keep watching and you will see that white, being down a tempo and stuck on defense must yield material. Because white refused to give up the pawn, his position becomes cramped and with a weak back-rank black wins a rook with 23...Qxb5 (also protecting against mate, and threatening mate with 24... Ra1+)
White resigns with mate imminent and the sight of at least a lost queen.
When I exchanged with 11...Bxc3 I never planned on winning a rook. My goal was to win the pawn. It turned out that by white barely defending, the position that arose was detrimental. White should have let that pawn fall and looked for counter-play elsewhere.
Any comments criticisms or corrections?Everyone who signs up gets a free copy of Rybka.
(Russ will gladly take care of that bit).
Then if your opponent makes a good move.
Put the position into Rybka and if it chooses as the best move
the same move your opponent has just played - Wallah!
He's Cheating.
Why has nobody thought of this before?I'm still looking at the Philidor (as Black) but now am intrigued by the Larsen variation as a way to get past the problem of Bg5 pinning the f6-knight (without having to emtomb my bishop at e7):
1. e4 e5
2. Nf3 d6
3. d4 exd4
4. Nxd4 g6
with 5...Bg7 intended.
Any advanced players, Philidor experts, theory mavens, or others with useful comments or analysis to contribute are requested to do so.
Plans? Traps? General assessment?Hello friends, for my latest lecture I would like to look at a psycological aspect of the game rather then something tangible like theory or tactics.
I was thinking, although it is less of a feature in correspondence chess (what with there being no time pressure for people to be nervous about) there is still an element of bravery in the game - and I believe this starts right from the first moves you make.
Obviously, 1. d4 c4 and Nf3 players are not really stating their intentions to play a risky game so can be forgiven for this as you know right from the outset that a positional outlook is required in these games and they will be won or lost by the building up of slight advantages.
But sometimes there are players who make themselves out to be big shots but actually are also dodging the danger by their play...
For instance, there are some players who will stick religiously to sharp theory which might make them look like a bold attacker but since they are never straying into unknown territory until much later in the game (and by then they probably know how to get an advantage) they are actually not as daring as an onlooker might believe them to be.
Also, there are those who will start off with a brave attack but quickly turn the game into a slow grind when the going gets tough - therefore killing off almost any good tactical exchanges. c3 Sicillian players are a good example of this - steering a normally exciting game into a slow squeeze where the only chances black gets are to defend against whites nusences.
I am sure there are other examples too and I urge you, the peoples of this forum, to bring them to our attention so that they may be exposed for all to see.Its a no brainer really.
I won't have to read any more pointless inflamatory forum posts by [uid]37797[/uid].
[b]Who needs another reason?[/b]when a pawn reaches the end of the board, must it be promoted?
(before people come back to me and say why wouldnt you promote it i'm not disputing that, just wondered if there are any rules to say you must promote it)
thankswhere can you get a good, classic non-english language chess book online? thanks :)Well?The review by Edgar Winter and examples from the book are hysterical. Is he still with The White Trash?
http://www.chesshistory.com/winter/extra/worst.htmlI fear I may have opened the flood gates on strange openings.
I bet now I get sent dozens of games from all over the world.
Ah well...
I wonder if Korch really is a coal miner?
http://www.chessedinburgh.co.uk/chandlerarticle.php?ChandID=280New to this site and enjoying my games. I like to analyse during the game in progress and I note that 'pre-existing research material' is allowed. I have been using 'Book Up' ( Chess Openings Programmes) for some time. One of their e books is an 'opening guide' which gives statistics for opening moves for both white and Black. Thus after my opponent makes a move I can go to this guide which gives me a list of possible moves rated by their popularity. I presume this list is compiled from database games between human players. So far I have not used this guide as I feel it may give me an unfair advantage. I am wondering what is the official RHP line and probably more important what do the more active experienced players think?i originally posted this to greenpawn but i fear he is far too busy at present, so if i may burden you guys with one more query that has been perplexing me for ages, i understand theory, quite a bit, its not difficult, the moves are made and an explanation given as to the overall strategy etc etc. and it has been my general understanding that good players follow accepted theory, and this theory lies within established boundaries, you know, that in general, there may be no more than two or three continuations at any given point, until well into the middle game at least, however the problems arise, when at my level, the players deviate from established theory, normally quite early on, for example i was playing my friend and nemesis, 'dass', on this site, i chose the Ruy Lopez and he played the Berlin defense, then at about move five he deviates, he is a deviant anyhow, and all my theory is futile, nothing in any of my books, nothing in any data bases, absolutely nude! center of a doughnut etc etc.
now the question is, how does one approach this, should it be viewed with skepticism, was his move inferior or perhaps has he mistakenly, or rather unknowingly stumbled upon a novelty, or are the moves that are to be made so diverse that it does not really matter so early, you're thoughts are most appreciated, as well as any experience you may have - regards Robert.[i]He who takes the QNP walks the streets of despair[/i]
I cannot remember who said that. I must admit when I first saw b4
I thought I had fallen for some kind of opening trap.
Then the Na6-c5 idea came to me. Black develops all his
Queenside bits with tempo. That's worth a QNP.
My first rated win on RHP - Yippeee!
[pgn]
[Event "Open invite"]
[Site "http://www.redhotpawn.com"]
[Date "2008.06.27"]
[EndDate "2008.07.03"]
[Round "?"]
[White "mlk2525"]
[Black "greenpawn34"]
[WhiteRating "1154"]
[BlackRating "1534"]
[WhiteELO "1154"]
[BlackELO "1534"]
[Result "0-1"]
[GameId "5155910"]
1. d4 Ng8f6 2. c4 c5 3. d5 d6 4. Nb1c3 g6 5. Bc1g5 Bf8g7 6. b4 cxb4
7. Qd1a4 Bc8d7 8. Qa4xb4 Nb8a6 9. Qb4xb7 Na6c5 10. Qb7b1 Ra8b8 11. Qb1d1 Nf6e4 12. Bg5d2 Ne4xc3 13. Qd1c1 Nc3e4 14. Ra1b1 Ne4xd2 15. Ke1xd2 Qd8a5 16. Kd2e3 Rb8xb1 17. Qc1xb1 Qa5c3 18. Ke3f4 Bg7h6 0-1[/pgn]birds opening on clausjensen.com, im playing a game there if you want to check it out.
http://www.clausjensen.com/?p=170#commentsDoes anybody fancy taking me on in an Evans? I'd like to play the white pieces against somebody with at least a similar rating, i'm not fussed about 100 points either way.
as long as the pawn is accepted you can do what you like after that. I'm trying to brush up on this opening to add it to my OTB repertoire.
Any takers? just send the board accross.
cheers.Not at 7th move of some particular variation but some first or second moves, sharp gambits right away. If it is a bit unsound it doesn't matter.
so gimme something interesting against English, Queen Pawn game, Bird system, even against 1. e4 when I play as black,something against Ruy Lopez except Morphy defense or Berlin defence with endless theory and gimme something sharp and open against French defence, Caro Kann and other.
It doesn't have to be sound as hell, I wan't some early deviations from normal quiet openings, suitable for quick kills !
Thanks in advance !
P. S. If you have a game to show with particular sharpy opening I would appreciate your PGN greatly.It's done.
http://chessedinburgh.co.uk/chandlerarticle.php?ChandID=279
It is an excellent chess book.I played someone with a rating of 900 in two blitz games and split them, one win apiece. He was clearly a pretty strong player who had deliberately lost all his correspondence games on this site for reasons best known to himself.Ed Schroder recently released the free Pro Deo 1.6 chess engine (maybe as long ago as last October, but I just became aware of this version). It's not the strongest engine in the world (2700+), but it supposedly has a human playing style. You can also give it various personalities, and it has a few weaker settings (club players, absolute novice, etc.)
The personality files look like they could be edited, and I guess you could even create new personalities if you knew what you were doing. One funny thing I noticed was that the "Average Club Player" personality is around 2000 elo! (2200 for the strong club player.) Maybe in the Netherlands where Ed lives, but certainly not here in the USA!
It's a Winboard engine, so if you want to run it under a Chessbase interface, you have to use the supplied winboard-to-UCI adapter.
Also, it looks like you have to edit a config file to change the hashtable size. (I recommend that you read all the Readme files.)
I'm currently running Pro Deo on its weaker settings in Arena against the Ufim engine set at 1200 elo. (Ufim can be set to as low as 700 elo.) Maybe I'll be able to tell if Pro Deo really makes more natural patzer moves than Ufim. :)
Here's the Pro Deo link (upper right-hand corner of page):
http://www.top-5000.nl/[tid]3390[/tid]
Not exactly the best group to be in. :Sthe jesus gambit..
1.d4 .. . . . .
then timeout in a 3/0 game :OQuestion above. Any thoughts on this?
EDIT: I wish I could delete this - wrong forum section.What do you think of:
1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Ng5 d5 5. exd5 Nxd5 6. Nxf7 Kxf7 7. Qf3+ Ke6 8. Nc3 Nb4 9. a3!?
[pgn]1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bc4 Nf6 4. Ng5 d5 5. exd5 Nxd5 6. Nxf7 Kxf7 7. Qf3+ Ke6 8. Nc3 Nb4 9. a3!?[/pgn] 1 23456789101112131415161718192021
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